Panel Presentation: Economic Issues

 

Eugene Steurle

 

It is an honor for me to make a presentation here.  In many ways, I have the easiest and the toughest task.  I get to speak very broadly about economics.  That’s easy for me to do.  The tough task is to try to relate all of it to technology and to the particular issues that are of concern to this conference.  To tie it all in, I am going to talk to you about aging from several economic perspectives.  First, we need to define aging in a more precise way, or at least distinguish between the components of aging.  Then we will look at the economics of aging: its effect on such things as dependency ratios, where the budget debate impacts, the implication for needs, and labor market issues--which I think are really important--and the role technology plays.  Finally, we will take a broad view of where we might be headed as a society as we think about aging.  In many cases, we tend to think about aging the way we might have thought about it in the 1930’s or maybe even the 1870’s, but not really about where we want to be in the 21st century. 

 

I often attend conferences on aging, social security and other related subjects and pose the question to the audience: “What do they think are the greatest needs of society?”  Education is a common answer.  In the recent presidential campaign, both candidates listed education as a priority.  A lot of people list crime as a priority.  We have had some reduction in crime rates, but crime among youths is still on many agendas.  Youth poverty is always a top priority.  What is never listed is the fact that we’re living longer.  That isn’t seen as a problem.  Better health care isn’t a problem.  However, if you think about priorities from a budget standpoint, aging, social security, Medicare, and so on, are clearly budgetary problems.  In some sense, we have an upside-down sort of system.  I believe this is largely because our thought processes of thinking about aging to be very stagnant.  To illustrate, think about someone who is age 60 in 1900 and then think about someone who is going to be age 60 in the year 2050: two very different paradigms.

 

Aging has two very important components, and I hope, if nothing else, you think about this throughout the conference.  The two components have very different implications.  The first is that we are living longer.  The second is that we have changed birthrates in society.  Living longer does not necessarily mean we are aging.  As President Clinton suggested a couple years ago, people born today might be living to over 100, so it is not clear that we want to be defining them as seniors at age 62.  Living longer does not necessarily mean that your needs are increasing.  I know my wife gets upset when I tell her that we are now soon eligible to get the lower discount at the movie theater because we’re defined as seniors in our mid-50’s.  Being in your mid-50’s or your early 60’s today is not the same as it was 50 years ago.  People now retire about 5 years earlier, younger, than they used to retire, and they live about 5 years longer.  So they are living about 10 more years in retirement today than when Social Security was first established.

 

If you factor in lower birthrates, it becomes apparent that the population under 18 and the population over 65 are now approximately equal, compared to the past when the population under 18 tended to be at least 2 times larger.  This does have economic implications.  A higher proportion of the population is now older.  And, as the baby boomers move into retirement without a proportionate population entering the work force behind them, the economic impact of a population over 65 becomes dramatic.  In addition, while baby boomers were in the labor force, they offset the impact of birthrate declines, which stretch back to the 1920s.  Now, as they retire, we are forced to make a three generational change in our retirement systems in the framework of one generation.  In addition, a larger proportion of our population will be in the last 10 percent of their life.  This is perhaps where technology can most benefit.

 

The second issue is that of dependency ratios.  With baby boomers moving into retirement age, there will be a dramatic increase in dependency ratios.  In fact, using current projections of workers to retirees, in 2030, about 1/3 of the adult population will be dependent, at least partly dependent, upon social security for its cash benefits.  A similar proportion is projected to be dependent upon Medicare.  I should indicate that these projections reflect a view that people are going to continue to retire in the future as they do today.  That is, people are not going to be working longer.  Men, in particular, have been retiring at younger and younger ages, and this reflects the view that this will continue to be the norm.  Given the lack of savings, even among the most middle class people, it means we will have a significant portion of these people on Social Security and Medicare and dependent upon other taxpayers for their support. 

 

What is the implication for technology and for thinking about design?  It is very different when we think about a population where 1/3 of them are on social security, with an increasing percentage moving from the “young old”, with typically 1/3 of their adult lives remaining, to the “old old”, who may really be in the last years of their lives and more likely to need long term care assistance, whether in their own home or elsewhere.  The debate centers around savings, whether through more of the budget surplus or throuch individual accounts.  In either case, this fundamental, dramatic drop in workers per dependents does not change.  Additional savings may give us some more resources as a society, but there is still a very real projection that we will have this very large increase in dependency ratios. 

 

The third issue is the about the budget itself.  Essentially, in the 20th century, we made a decision as a society, and it was not just simply a decision in terms of government programs.  It was also in terms of private programs.  We decided that we would spend vastly increasing proportions of our national wealth on retirement and health.  Office of Management and Budget projections show expenditures in Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid as a percent of GDP to be continually rising since 1940 and to continue to do so through 2075.  These three programs alone are projected to eventually absorb all projected government revenues.  Which begs the question of how do you pay for everything else: education, our defense, our National Institutes of Health, research, and the list goes on.  This is a 20th century decision.  The question is do we stay on that trend line?  Current programs say, yes, we will.  Whether, indeed, we can or will afford it is the driving force of our budget debates.

 

I would like to return for a moment to the concept of “young old” and “old old”.  The needs of the “old old” are very different from the people who are retiring in their early 60’s.  In fact, they are almost a generation apart.  I do not believe this point can be driven home enough.  If we start defining all seniors as being alike in terms of needs, I think we make a drastic mistake.  Seniors in their early 60’s, have about a third of their adult lives left, by most life-expectancy charts, and are in very different situation than are the “old-old”.  Older seniors are not only more likely to have physical and/or mental impairments but, they are also less likely to have spouses around to provide them support or to exchange services between themselves when they get older.  We must distinguish economically between the needs of different parts of the elderly population.

 

The fifth economic implication has to do with what has been going on in the labor market in recent years.  This involves what I am calling the non-employment rate.  This is the percent of the male population that is not employed in the labor force, so it includes some amount of unemployment, but it is mainly driven by retirement.  In 1948, only about 14% of males were not employed.  Remember people were living shorter periods of time.  Males, in 1948, were typically retiring at age 68, rather than today’s average age of 63.

With a quarter of males not working, the rate of unemployment for males has actually gone up, because of larger numbers able to enjoy retirement at an earlier age and for a long part of their lifespan.  We see this phenomena despite an overall decreasing unemployment rate because of the influx of women entering the workforce over the same time period.

 

However, what about the future?  Women have pretty much caught up with their male counterparts in filling existing labor demand.  Assuming that age-specific employment stays constant, the number of unemployed males in 2030 grows to a third of the male population.  It is not possible for women to continue to offset the increase in male unemployment, and, as they too start retiring, we will see an tremendous increase in the unemployed rate.

 

The interesting question beyond social security, beyond the budget, is what will really happen?  Will the demand for labor that is taking place out there really start to make an offset and will the demand for labor now have an impact upon the demand for older workers.  I am one of those who is predicting that there will be a significant increase in demand for older workers.  I say older, but I am somewhat reluctant when people have a third of their adult life left in their early 60’s to call them “seniors” anymore.  I think they are in their late middle age and I think that the demand for workers in their late middle age will go up significantly.  This will dramatically change the face of labor.  It will be reflected, for instance, in the incentives that employers provide.  You can already see it in debates over changes in pension plans and in health care.  

 

And so we come back to the question of technology.  Is technology going to make this possible?  Can it break down the barriers so that physical impairments are no longer a real impairment towards work.

 

The economic issues boil down to living longer and lower birthrates.  They are very different in terms of their impact.  We do have this dramatic, significant increase in dependency ratios being projected for the future.  We need to be careful about discerning who is really most dependent in terms of needs.  The budgetary implications are going to be played out for the next 10 or 15 years.  In fact, it will probably be the dominant budget issue.  We certainly have implications for thinking about what needs we want to accommodate among the elderly.  And the fascinating issue overriding all of this is how will labor markets adjust?  If more people work, then it increases the number of taxpayers and reduces the dependency ratio.  It does all sorts of things to help ease whatever other budgetary problems we may have.

 

Finally, I’d like to suggest to you that there is an even broader vision that I think we need to be thinking about as a society.  We should consider that our education model may no longer be the one society needs or wants.  Currently, we focus on education until age 21, work from about 21 to 60, and then spend the last third or more of our adult lives in retirement and leisure.  Maybe our new demographics require that we distribute this more evenly over the entire age cycle.  We have already seen movements in the direction of not confining education to the young.  It is not clear, in fact, why education is confined to all the hours before 3 o’clock in the afternoon and months other than summer months.  This is a throwback to a farm sector economy.  It is not clear that labor, especially in an information age, is something that we only think about as a burden upon society and is not something that people actually want to engage in older years.  It is also not clear that this leisure should not be distributed more evenly over the economic cycle.

 

I think that we need to be flexible, whether we are designing technology or designing public programs for the future.  We must look at our greater needs as a future society and adjust our designs to the demand of the various people who will make up that future population mix.